Counterfeit Emerson Knives Warning


Emerson is issuing a customer alert to purchasers of products, particularly via internet sales, in regards to bogus Emerson products that are apparently being illegally imported from the People’s Republic of China.  These products bear many of the marks and trade dress of current making them very hard to distinguish externally from authentic Emerson products.

In recent months, counterfeited Emerson’s have begun to arrive with increasing regularity to the Emerson headquarters for service.  These products are not manufactured by Emerson and are not covered by the Emerson Knives, Inc Guarantee.
The thing to be aware of is that if you are an internet shopper and you find a price that is "Too good to be true", then it probably is a counterfeit.

Remember that the customer demand for Emerson Knives has always exceeded the supply.  And, Emerson does not discount any of their products.  Our prices to distributors, dealers and retail are structured so that no one seller has an unfair advantage over any other seller.

Once again, be advised that a ridiculously low priced Emerson is possibly a counterfeit or that the dealer does not and probably never has had, an actual Emerson Knife in stock but unfortunately, is using the Emerson name to lure you into buying some other product.

We recommend that you buy an Emerson Knife from a reputable, well regarded dealer.  We have experienced too many stories of ultra low priced sellers taking customers money and then claiming that the knife is on backorder – sometimes for months.  Verify that the dealer has the knife in stock before you order.

We are looking out for you but in the end, as the Ancient Romans said so simply “Caveat Emptor” – Let the buyer beware.

Good Hunting,

Ernest R. Emerson






Well we have all see the rash of fake Commanders on E-bay, and at gun shows, etc, etc.

Most sellers don't come right out and say what they are selling is fake.
You often see words like Emerson type, or replica, and even Commander style knife.
We all know that the 2000 commander is the most counterfeited Emerson of them all.
We have all heard, and read "look for torx screws instead of regular phillips on the handles,
knurling on thumb stud and the grain of the G-10, and the fake as hell 2000 logo.

As you will see below (in detail) in this post is that these copycats have gotten a little bit "smarter"

Thanks to Gus(gstrand) for supplying me with one of their latest attempt to trick us. A 2008 logo'ed
FAKE Emerson Commander.


NOTE: Throughout this post the real Emerson is on the bottom.

Let us begin with the box. The color of the logo on the fake box is pretty
much all red with not much fading of red to white color.

Also the letters are not as BOLD. Also when the boxes are open, you see that
the inside of the real Emerson box is white, and is just better quality material than the fake box.


Now for the knife. For this comparison I will be using a green bladed 2000 Commander,
because it has the swedge, and also the screws down the middle of the handle.(and green is just cool)


The two pictures show a few obvious signs of the fake that I noted above
(torx screws instead of regular phillips on the handles, knurling on thumb stud and the grain of the G-10, and the fake as hell 2000 logo.)


Also you look closer, you will start to notice other things such as;

1.The contours around the scales are not uniform on the fake.
2.The shiny black pivot screw on the fake.
3.Smaller logo.
4.The fact that all the holes in the handle of the fake look "rough"
5.The gap between the sides of the thumb stud and the blade.











From these angles you can notice the color of the thumb stud screw is different.
The bevel in the thumb stud for the screw to sit in.
How bad the contours on the fake are, compared to the rael Emerson.
Notice the "cut" of the liners, the real Emerson is CLEAN! and the fake looks to have several gouges.
Also the notchs in the the lockbar are crisp and clean on the real Emerson, and the fake ones look very different(smaller)








The first two pictures show the differences in the contours on the back side scales.
The huge gouge on the fake, and once again the liners are noticeably different.
The clip is close, but not an Emerson clip, and the torx screws for the clip is a no-no.
The lanyard holes are not the same size.










Now for the blades.......

The logo on the real Emerson is slanted upward from right to left,
and the fake slants downward from right to left.
The swedge on the fake comes down to low, and meets the grind from the belly to far back.
The grind on the fake has lines in it. The real Emerson is smooth.
The thumb stud does not sit flat in the blade.
The curve of the wave is not as deep on the fake one.










These first picture show how different the knurling on thumb studs are, and show the gaps on the sides of the thumb stud on the fake.
The second picture show the swedges up close, and the grind lines on the fake one.
The third picture shows the notches in the lock liner. Real Emerson=Crisp cuts!
The fourth picture show the serrations are also not he same.










Now I know by now some of you Emersonaholics are thinking "The logo is wrong, why not show a 2008"
Well here you go, yes a 2008 Commander should say COMMANDER, and MADE IN USA on the lower left of the logo.
Also the "WAVE FEATURE" & US PAT NO.5,878,500 should be at the bottom right.(soory about the "VINTAGE 005, it's the only 2008 I have)

Now lets pull them apart!!!

The first thing I saw was the lack of screws holding the liners and back spacer together. Fake is PRESS together.
Then the lack of second detent, the fake does not have one.
Also the stop pin on the fake is rough cut.
Extra points if you noticed the size differece between the pivot threads. The fake is about half the size of the real one.
The cut of the lock bar on the fake is a very rough!











The first picture shows rough cut of the lock bar closer, and how crappy the liners are.
From the second picture you can see how the pivot holes in the liners are not the same, and the detent balls and not in the same spot.
Now last but not least, the washers. WTF?!? The fake one has two different washers! Looking closer the clear wasker is actually two stuck together!

Well I hope this helps everyone to spot those fake Commanders out there.

Just remember that the best way to get your hands on the real deal is buy your Emerson's from E.K.I, one of our USN dealers,
or from another USN member right here in the USN COVE










Thanks to CEVTC for noticing the logo closeup.